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  Cardinals Received a Document Opposing the Roman Rite at the Consistory - Report
Posted by: Stone - 01-16-2026, 12:51 PM - Forum: Vatican II and the Fruits of Modernism - No Replies

Cardinals Received a Document Opposing the Roman Rite at the Consistory - Report


gloria.tv | January 11, 2026

Although the subject of the Mass in the Roman rite was not raised openly during the consistory on January 7-8, it was nevertheless referenced in writing.

“While the liturgy was put aside,” an anonymous cardinal told TheCatholicHerald.com that “we were given a paper at the end written by Cardinal Arthur Roche, which was pretty negative concerning the Tridentine Latin Mass.”

Cardinal Roche, Prefect of the Dicastery for Liturgy, has been one of the key figures in enforcing Pope Francis's 2021 apostolic letter Traditionis custodes, which restricts the celebration of the Mass.

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  "Nostalgic" Proposals on Liturgy Not Helpful – Cardinal Spengler
Posted by: Stone - 01-16-2026, 12:50 PM - Forum: Vatican II and the Fruits of Modernism - No Replies

"Nostalgic" Proposals on Liturgy Not Helpful – Cardinal Spengler

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gloria.tv | January 16, 2026

Asked about the Mass in the Roman rite, Cardinal Jaime Spengler of Porto Alegre, Brazil, said that “the river doesn’t flow backwards.” He spoke with VidaNuevaDigital.com on January 16. The cardinal is president of the bishops’ conferences of Brazil and Latin America (CELAM).

His main statement echoes the historically weak ideas promoted by Cardinal Roche at the consistory on January 7-8.

Cardinal Spengler said, “Throughout history, the liturgy has undergone various reforms. The Second Vatican Council represents an enormous effort to recover fundamental elements of Catholic liturgical celebration. Nostalgic proposals do not help to promote what the Council identified as essential for the liturgy.”

Furthermore, Cardinal Spengler offered a pointless definition of the Eucharist: “Liturgy cannot be understood simply as an expression of religious practice; above all, it is a vigorous expression of a lived experience of faith, both personal and communal - an experience of encounter with the person of Jesus Christ.”

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  Cardinal Czerny: No Complaints about Lack of Liturgy Discussion at the Consistory
Posted by: Stone - 01-16-2026, 12:48 PM - Forum: Vatican II and the Fruits of Modernism - No Replies

"Sorry We Didn’t Discuss the Liturgy" — A Complaint Cardinal Czerny Never Heard at the Consistory

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gloria.tv | January 16, 2026

Cardinal Michael Czerny, SJ, 79, said that during the consistory on 7-8 January, he did not hear anyone say, "Oh, I’m sorry we didn’t discuss the liturgy".

He told the Substack.com-account The Pillar on 13 January, that what Leo XIV will do with the Mass of the Roman Rite is "beyond my pay grade": "I can’t speculate about how he intends to approach the situation. But I can’t imagine a pope who wouldn’t want to bring peace to the Church. I think every pope since St Peter would want that," the cardinal speculated.

In general, he found the consistory a "healthy" exercise. "As soon as we got together and realised that the first thing we would do was spend the whole afternoon discussing it, we realised we were already at work. People immediately switched into gear. All three sessions were good."


"Not Possible Without Pope Francis"

When asked if the lack of collegiality among the cardinals wasn’t the elephant in the room under Francis, Cardinal Czerny denied it, saying: “No, quite the opposite. Everyone said, thought or felt that this could not have happened without Francis.”

Regarding the term 'synodality', Cardinal Czerny said that the Cardinals are closer to a common appreciation: “To appreciate doesn’t necessarily mean to be able to give the clearest of definitions.”

His "definition" of synodality is as follows: "If you just see it, you don't get it. You have to experience it."

Cardinal Czerny believes that the more synodal the Church is, the more it will evangelise.

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  Oratory Conference: Pope Leo XII: Quo Graviora on Secret Societies January 14, 2026
Posted by: Deus Vult - 01-15-2026, 07:30 PM - Forum: Conferences - No Replies

Pope Leo XII: Quo Graviora on Secret Societies
January 14, 2026 (NH)

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  Fr. Hewko Catechism: Extreme Unction & Matrimony January 14, 2026
Posted by: Deus Vult - 01-15-2026, 07:27 PM - Forum: Catechisms - No Replies

Catechism: Extreme Unction & Matrimony
January 14, 2026 (NH)

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  Fr. Hewko: Work of St. Joseph (10 min Devotion) January 14, 2026
Posted by: Deus Vult - 01-15-2026, 07:25 PM - Forum: January 2026 - No Replies

Work of St. Joseph (10 min Devotion)
January 14, 2026  (NH)

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  Oratory Conference: Apocalypse: Chapter 19 & 20 January 13, 2026
Posted by: Deus Vult - 01-15-2026, 04:52 PM - Forum: Conferences - No Replies

Apocalypse: Chapter 19 & 20
January 13, 2026  (NH)

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  Oratory Conference: Scorn of Modernist For Council of Trent January 13, 2026
Posted by: Deus Vult - 01-15-2026, 04:49 PM - Forum: Conferences - No Replies

Scorn of Modernist For Council of Trent 
January 13, 2026  (NH)

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  Holy Mass in New Hampshire - January 18, 2026
Posted by: Stone - 01-15-2026, 10:58 AM - Forum: January 2026 - No Replies

Holy Sacrifice of the Mass - Second Sunday after Epiphany

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Date: Sunday, January 18, 2026


Time: Confessions - 9:45 AM
              Holy Mass - 10:30 AM


Location: The Oratory of the Sorrowful Heart of Mary
                      66 Gove's Lane
                      Wentworth, NH 03282


Contact: 315-391-7575                   
                  sorrowfulheartofmaryoratory@gmail.com

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  Oratory Conference: St. Patrick Meets Pope St. Leo January 13, 2026 (
Posted by: Deus Vult - 01-14-2026, 12:43 PM - Forum: Conferences - No Replies

St. Patrick Meets Pope St. Leo
January 13, 2026  (NH)

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  Fr.Hewko Catechism: Holy Orders January 13, 2026
Posted by: Deus Vult - 01-14-2026, 12:39 PM - Forum: Catechisms - No Replies

Holy Orders
January 13, 2026  (NH)

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  Popes Condemning Freemasonry January 12, 2026
Posted by: Deus Vult - 01-13-2026, 01:01 PM - Forum: Conferences - No Replies

Popes Condemning Freemasonry
January 12, 2026  (NH)

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  Fr. Ruiz Sermons: 2026 01 11 LOS TRES TIPOS DE TRADICIÓN Fiesta Sgda Familia
Posted by: Deus Vult - 01-13-2026, 12:56 PM - Forum: Fr. Ruiz's Sermons January 2026 - No Replies

2026 01 11 LOS TRES TIPOS DE TRADICIÓN 
Fiesta Sgda Familia

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  Fr. Hewko Catechism: Holy Orders January 12, 2026
Posted by: Deus Vult - 01-13-2026, 12:53 PM - Forum: Catechisms - No Replies

Catechism: Holy Orders
January 12, 2026  (NH)

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  Fr. Hewko's Sermons: Octave Day of Epiphany January 13, 2026
Posted by: Deus Vult - 01-13-2026, 11:57 AM - Forum: January 2026 - No Replies

Octave Day of Epiphany 
January 13, 2026  (NH)




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