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| Another Sedevacantist Groups Elects Their Own Pope |
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Posted by: Stone - 3 hours ago - Forum: Sedevacantism
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It has been done before and will likely be done again...
Recently, Bp. Roy has called for an imperfect council. The fromrome.info website, a website run by a 'Brother' (it is my understanding the title of Brother is self-imposed) Bugnolo, who has for several years now been advocating one extreme solution after another to the problem of the Conciliar popes. This is this groups second attempt to elect a pope...
The Lord of Hosts has spoken, Hildebrand is His Vicar on Earth
July 5, 2026 [slightly adapted - not all hyperlinks included from original]
Two historical events, each of which is undeniable and each of which is significant have occurred in recent days, proving that Hildebrand is the Vicar of Christ on Earth.
The first is that at the moment of Consecration of the Most Blessed Sacrament, by the Bishops of the Society of Saint Pius X, on July 1, 2026, the Lord sent clouds over the place and it began to pour rain, preventing for a long time the distribution of communion to the Faithful, present. In fact, only after the recitation of the Most Holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin, were the laity able to receive.
The second is that Robert Prevost, who claims to be Leo XIV, while visiting Lampedusa, had his zucchetto removed from his head, by the Lord who sent a wind which took that authentic symbol of His Vicar on Earth, away from him who has no legal claim to wear it.
And:
These two events can only be explained by this: that someone else is the true vicar of Christ, and that the SSPX could have obtained papal mandate from him, to have Christ’s blessing, but failed to act honestly (Cf. the Agenda for Hildebrand’s Pontificate, here).
We will see more of this until Hildebrand is enthroned as Roman Pontiff, since the Holy Ghost will not remain silent nor let His people be deceived.
WHO IS HILDEBRAND, THE POPE ELECT?
It has been more than 6 months since the Catholics of Rome used their right, granted to them by Saint Peter the Apostle, according to the teaching of Pope Nicholas II, to elect Hildebrand, during the sedevacante which resulted from the failed, illegal election of Robert Prevost in May of last year. (For more about that see Hilebrands “Urbi et Orbi” for Christmas and the FAQ file which contains replies to all the most major questions, including who Hildebrand is, and basic facts about him).
Since that time, no one on earth has brought any canonical argument against the validity of his election. All they can do is hurl insults and innuendos against him or the former editor of FromRome.Info.
This is because, without a doubt, some of those who are attacking are paid or blackmailed agents of foreign intelligence agencies, who realize how great an existential threat to the New World Order is the possibility of a truly Catholic and legally valid Roman Pontiff, whom they did not select and who is not a brother in the Lodge as they are.
For that reason, they NEED as an absolute necessity to know who Hildebrand is, that is, to know his nationality and civil name and present location, because they actually do intend to murder him, first by public calumny and finally but shooting him dead or poisoning him.
Mindful, that our war here is not only against the principalities and powers in the heavens, as Saint Paul teaches, but also against their evil spawn, the Freemasons of our age, Br. Bugnolo advised the pope elect to not reveal publicly his identity, since that is the easiest and safest way to he can be protected without the expense of thousands of dollars in security services, body guards, and the rent of a secure isolated compound. This security measure will last until he is consecrated a Bishop. Thus, it is only a temporary measure for very practical reasons.
There are many trolls on social media, who would have you think that it is crazier to accept a Roman Pontiff whose civil name you do not know, than it is to reveal his name now. But these individuals are psychotic, that is, divorced from the reality in which we live: wherein a criminal gang of sodomites and heretics, hand selected and chosen by U.S. intelligence agencies and with the connivance of many other nations, has seized total control not only of the Vatican but of nearly every other Catholic diocese and institution, by putting into power men who are spies, intelligence agents, or blackmailed persons, so as to totally control a false narrative, that everything is O.K. in the Church, or that the only solution is destroying Her from within through heresy and schisms.
As Catholics we already know that there have been many Popes in the history of the Catholic Church, whose civil names and biographies we know nothing or very little, as to who they were before their election, not to mention afterwards. All we know are their regnal names, and even some of these are in dispute (e. g. Pope Fabian, in some sources is called “Pope Flavian”). No Catholic in their right mind has ever said, that since he does not know who these popes were, that he does not accept them as true Popes. Rather, the entire Church has held that he is the true pope, who is the first man validly elected, regardless of who he was in life or what his name is.
An example of this is Pope John II.
Every Catholic accepts him as the true pope. We know from history that he was not called, “John”, but “Ioannes”, since the Catholics of Rome in those days spoke Latin. We know from historical studies, that he reigned from the year of our Lord January 2, 533 to May 8, 535 A. D.. But John was not his name in life. He was the first to change his name and take a regnal name.
The vast majority of Roman Pontiffs since have done the same. Only in more recent centuries do we know the name of these men, before they were elected, with absolute certainty.
FromRome.Info won’t tell you the “real” name of Pope John II, though we know it. And in this we do not sin, because it is a lesson in history and common sense, as well as humility, that we have presented his case.
Finally, it is obvious that to the Bishops who will consecrate Hildebrand, he will make his name and identity known, and that to all Bishops who seriously inquire about him, they can request a meeting with him, via his Secretary of State, at SedesApostolica.Info. This security measure is in effect only for non-Bishops and Bishops who, as the persons above, want to know who he is, but refuse to accept him, because they reject all papal law as the principle of determining who is the true pope or not; finding that not having a pope, and/or, not having a Catholic pope who wants to clean up the Church, is better to their liking.
The stakes here are life and death. Anyone with common sense and a little knowledge of what is going on in the world right now, understands this. For those who want to be in juridical, hierarchical and spiritual communion with Jesus Christ, it is enough to know the true popes reignal name, Hildebrand. For, as scripture says, in Psalm 69, verses 30 to 36, according to the Latin of the Clementine Vulgate:
Laudabo nomen Dei cum cantico ; et magnificabo eum in laude ; et placebit Deo super vitulum novellum, cornua producentem et ungulas. Videant pauperes, et lætentur ; quærite Deum, et vivet anima vestra, quoniam exaudivit pauperes Dominus, et vinctos suos non despexit. Laudent illum cæli et terra ; mare, et omnia reptilia in eis. Quoniam Deus salvam faciet Sion, et ædificabuntur civitates Juda, et inhabitabunt ibi, et hæreditate acquirent eam. Et semen servorum ejus possidebit eam ; et qui diligunt nomen ejus habitabunt in ea.
Which in English, we render thus:
I will praise the Name of God with a canticle; and I will magnify Him in praise; and it shall please God more than a new calf, sprouting horns and hooves. Let the poor see and be glad! Seek God, and let your soul live! since the Lord has heard the poor, and has not despised His prisoners. Let the Heavens and Earth praise Him! the sea, and all the moving things in them. Since the Lord shall save Zion, and they shall build the cities of Judah, and shall dwel in them, and they shall acquire her as an inheritance. And the seed of His servants shall possess her; and those who have chosen to love His Name shall dwell in her.
These things were said prophetically of the Catholic Faithful of future ages who accept Jesus Christ and submit to His rule in the Church, under His true and legitimate vicars on earth.
Finally, though it is needless to say for clergy who understand Church law and have a conscience, that for those priests and deacons who need faculties, and who accept Hildebrand as the pope elect, they can contact his Secretary of State and make an application for this purpose. Presently, the Holy Father is especially asking for the help of clergy, Bishops and Priests, to serve the Faithful at Rome, so that they may have all the Sacraments of Christ in communion with Him.
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| Archbishop Lefebvre’s Letter to a Sedevacantist [1988] |
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Posted by: Stone - Yesterday, 10:09 AM - Forum: Sedevacantism
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Archbishop Lefebvre’s Letter to a Sedevacantist
Taken from here
English:
Écône, 19 May 1988
Dear Mr. Laurençon,
You have adopted the radical solution in your judgment about the Pope, and so for you there is no longer a Pope.
It is a solution that simplifies the problems.
As for us, we prefer to leave this judgment to God and to act as if the Pope were Pope, while condemning his words, his writings, and his acts, which are those of a bad shepherd.
It is a more difficult solution, but it seems to us more in keeping with reality, and it allows us to make efforts so that Tradition may return to Rome.
Our contacts with modernist Rome have no other purpose.
We must indeed pray to Our Lady of Fatima so that the Reign of Our Lord may come.
Believe that I am praying for you and that I ask God, through Mary, to bless you.
+ Marcel Lefebvre
French:
Écône, le 19 Mai 1988
Cher Monsieur Laurençon,
Vous avez pris la solution radicale dans votre jugement sur le Pape et ainsi pour vous il n’y a plus de Pape.
C’est une solution qui simplifie les problèmes.
Pour nous, nous préférons laisser ce jugement à Dieu et agir comme si le Pape était Pape, tout en réprouvant ses paroles, ses écrits et ses actes qui sont ceux d’un mauvais pasteur.
C’est une solution plus difficile, mais qui nous semble plus conforme à la réalité et qui nous permet de faire des efforts pour que la Tradition revienne à Rome.
Nos contacts avec la Rome moderniste n’ont pas d’autre but.
Nous devons bien prier Notre Dame de Fatima afin que le Règne de Notre Seigneur arrive.
Croyez que je prie pour vous et que je demande à Dieu par Marie de vous bénir.
+ Marcel Lefebvre
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| Archbishop Lefebvre’s Letter to a Sedevacantist [1988] |
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Posted by: Stone - Yesterday, 10:08 AM - Forum: Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre
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Archbishop Lefebvre’s Letter to a Sedevacantist
Taken from here
English:
Écône, 19 May 1988
Dear Mr. Laurençon,
You have adopted the radical solution in your judgment about the Pope, and so for you there is no longer a Pope.
It is a solution that simplifies the problems.
As for us, we prefer to leave this judgment to God and to act as if the Pope were Pope, while condemning his words, his writings, and his acts, which are those of a bad shepherd.
It is a more difficult solution, but it seems to us more in keeping with reality, and it allows us to make efforts so that Tradition may return to Rome.
Our contacts with modernist Rome have no other purpose.
We must indeed pray to Our Lady of Fatima so that the Reign of Our Lord may come.
Believe that I am praying for you and that I ask God, through Mary, to bless you.
+ Marcel Lefebvre
French:
Écône, le 19 Mai 1988
Cher Monsieur Laurençon,
Vous avez pris la solution radicale dans votre jugement sur le Pape et ainsi pour vous il n’y a plus de Pape.
C’est une solution qui simplifie les problèmes.
Pour nous, nous préférons laisser ce jugement à Dieu et agir comme si le Pape était Pape, tout en réprouvant ses paroles, ses écrits et ses actes qui sont ceux d’un mauvais pasteur.
C’est une solution plus difficile, mais qui nous semble plus conforme à la réalité et qui nous permet de faire des efforts pour que la Tradition revienne à Rome.
Nos contacts avec la Rome moderniste n’ont pas d’autre but.
Nous devons bien prier Notre Dame de Fatima afin que le Règne de Notre Seigneur arrive.
Croyez que je prie pour vous et que je demande à Dieu par Marie de vous bénir.
+ Marcel Lefebvre
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| Vatican asks for same concessions for 'reconciliation' that are in the Doctrinal Declaration of 2012 |
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Posted by: Stone - 07-04-2026, 09:29 AM - Forum: The New-Conciliar SSPX
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It is not without amazement that one sees that the Vatican is asking for those members of the SSPX who wish to 'reconcile' with the Vatican after the excommunication of the SSPX's now six bisops by accepting the Vatican's 'Profession of Faith and Formula of Adherence' are nearly identical to the concessions of Bp. Fellay in the Doctrinal Declaration of 2012!
Firstly...
Vatican issues guidelines for SSPX clergy, laity to return to ‘full communion’
The DDF has issued two sets of guidelines for SSPX clergy and laity who wish to 'reconcile'
with the Vatican following Thursday's excommunications.
Jul 2, 2026
(LifeSiteNews) — The Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith (DDF) under Cardinal Víctor Manuel Fernández has issued a document “Procedure for the Reconciliation of Priests of the Society of Saint Pius X,” and another for the lay faithful which includes a Profession of Faith and Formula of Adherence.
The move follows Thursday’s excommunication of the Society after their episcopal consecrations without a papal mandate.
The procedure, effective July 1 and translated in full by Rorate Caeli, requires priests belonging to the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) who have decided to leave the order to:- find a bishop, a major superior of a clerical pontifical institute or another ordinary who is willing to accept him ad experimentum,
- write a letter to Pope Leo XIV requesting the remission of the censures incurred by receiving priestly ordination from an excommunicated or canonically irregular bishop, and
- attach documentation of his priestly ordination and a Profession of Faith and a Formula of Adherence, as well as a letter signed by the ordinary explaining their willingness to accept the priest.
Should the clerics request be accepted, they will enter into a 1-3 year probationary period under their ordinary after which the priest may finally be incardinated.
Laity who frequently assist at SSPX liturgical celebrations and formally share its doctrinal positions, as well as those who are third-order members of the Society, are considered to have also incurred a canonical penalty and will be required to sign the Profession of Faith and Formula of Adherence.
The Profession of Faith begins with affirming that the cleric or layman believes every article in the Nicene Creed then states:
Quote:With firm faith, I also believe everything contained in the word of God, whether written or handed down in Tradition, which the Church proposes as divinely revealed, whether by solemn judgment or by her ordinary and universal Magisterium.
I likewise firmly accept and hold each and every teaching definitively proposed by the Church regarding faith and morals.
Moreover, with religious submission of will and intellect, I adhere to the teachings which either the Roman Pontiff or the College of Bishops proclaim when exercising their authentic Magisterium, even if they do not intend to proclaim them by a definitive act.
The Formula of Adherence states in part:
Quote:I accept the doctrine taught in No. 25 of the Dogmatic Constitution Lumen Gentium of the Second Vatican Council concerning the Magisterium of the Church and the adherence owed to it.
With regard to certain doctrines taught by the Second Vatican Council, or subsequent reforms in either the Sacred Liturgy or Canon Law, which may appear to some to be difficult to reconcile with previous declarations of the Magisterium, I undertake to follow a positive approach to their interpretation under the guidance of the Church’s Magisterium, so that none of these teachings may be separated from the remainder of the Church’s sacred doctrinal patrimony.
I further declare that I accept the validity of the Sacrifice of the Mass and of the Sacraments celebrated with the intention of doing what the Church does, and according to the rites contained in the typical editions of the Roman Missal and the ritual books promulgated by the Supreme Pontiffs Paul VI and John Paul II.
Finally, I promise to adhere to the common discipline of the Church and to her laws, especially those contained in the Code of Canon Law promulgated by Pope John Paul II.
The question of accepting each document of the Second Vatican Council, including Lumen Gentium No. 25, was a sticking point between the SSPX and the Vatican prior to Wednesday’s consecrations.
A February communiqué from the SSPX General House published after Superior General Fr. Davide Pagliarani’s meeting with Fernández claimed that the cardinal proposed dialogue with the SSPX to clarify the “minimum necessary” for the SSPX’s canonical status. The cardinal had already made clear that the Second Vatican Council documents must be accepted in full by the SSPX to reach such “regular” status.
“The Cardinal stated orally that, while it would be possible to engage in dialogue about the Council, its texts could not be corrected,” the communiqué said.
Fernández proposed exchanges with the SSPX that would seek agreement on “the different degrees of adherence required by the various texts of the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council and their interpretation.” [...]
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Now here is an excerpt containing the text of the Doctrinal Declaration of 2012 signed by Bishop Fellay, taken from a Recusant article
Ten Years Ago…
15th April 2012 - Doctrinal Declaration composed and signed by the Superior
General on behalf of the SSPX and delivered to Rome (but kept secret from
even the SSPX’s own priests for almost a full year).
“I. We promise to be always faithful to the Catholic Church and to the Roman Pontiff, the Supreme Pastor, Vicar of Christ, Successor of Peter, and head of the body of bishops.
II. We declare that we accept the teachings of the Magisterium of the Church in the substance of Faith and Morals, adhering to each doctrinal affirmation in the required degree, according to the doctrine contained in No.25 of the dogmatic constitution Lumen Gentium of the Second Vatican Council.(1)
III.
1. We declare that we accept the doctrine regarding the Roman Pontiff and regarding the college of bishops, with the Pope as its head, which is taught by the dogmatic constitution Pastor Aeternus of Vatican I and by the dogmatic constitution Lumen Gentium of Vatican II, chapter 3 (deconstitutione hierarchica Ecclesiae et in specie de episcopatu), explained and interpreted by the nota explicativa praevia in this same chapter.
2. We recognise the authority of the Magisterium to which alone is given the task of authentically interpreting the word of God, in written form or handed down (2) in fidelity to Tradition, recalling that, “the Holy Ghost was not promised to the successors of Peter in order for them to make known, through revelation, a new doctrine, but so that with His assistance they may keep in a holy and expressly faithful manner the revelation transmitted by the Apostles, that is to say, the Faith.”(3)
3. Tradition is the living transmission of revelation ‘usque ad nos’(4) and the Church in its doctrine, in its life and in its liturgy perpetuates and transmits to all generations what this is and what She believes. Tradition progresses in the Church with the assistance of the Holy Ghost(5), not as a contrary novelty(6), but through a better understanding of the Deposit of the Faith(7).
4. The entire tradition of Catholic Faith must be the criterion and guide in understanding the teaching of the Second Vatican Council, which, in turn, enlightens - in other words deepens and subsequently makes explicit - certain aspects of the life and doctrine of the Church implicitly present within itself or not yet conceptually formulated(8).
5. The affirmations of the Second Vatican Council and of the later Pontifical Magisterium relating to the relationship between the Church and the non-Catholic Christian confessions, as well as the social duty of religion and the right to religious liberty, whose formulation is with difficulty reconcilable with prior doctrinal affirmations from the Magisterium, must be understood in the light of the whole, uninterrupted Tradition, in a manner coherent with the truths previously taught by the Magisterium of the Church, without accepting any interpretation of these affirmations whatsoever that would expose Catholic doctrine to opposition or rupture with Tradition and with this Magisterium.
6. That is why it is legitimate to promote through legitimate discussion the study and theological explanations of the expressions and formulations of Vatican II and of the Magisterium which followed it, in the case where they don't appear reconcilable with the previous Magisterium of the Church(9).
7. We declare that we recognise the validity of the sacrifice of the Mass and the Sacraments celebrated with the intention to do what the Church does according to the rites indicated in the typical editions of the Roman Missal and the Sacramentary Rituals legitimately promulgated by Popes Paul VI and John-Paul II.
8. In following the guidelines laid out above (III,5), as well as Canon 21 of the Code of Canon Law, we promise to respect the common discipline of the Church and the ecclesiastical laws, especially those which are contained in the Code of Canon Law promulgated by John-Paul II (1983) and in the Code of Canon Law of the Oriental Churches promulgated by the same pontiff (1990), without prejudice to the discipline of the Society of Saint Pius X, by a special law.
Notes --
(1) Cf. the new formula for the Profession of Faith and the Oath of Fidelity for assuming a charge exercised in the name of the Church, 1989; cf. Code of Canon Law, canon 749,750, §2; 752; CCEO canon 597; 598, 1 & 2; 599.
(2) Cf. Pius XII, Humani Generis encyclical.
(3) Vatican I, Dogmatic Constitution, Pastor Aeternus, Dz. 3070.
(4) Council of Trent, Dz. 1501: “All saving truth and rules of conduct (Matt. 16:15) are contained in the written books and in the unwritten traditions, which, received by the Apostles from the mouth of Christ Himself, or from the Apostles themselves,[3] the Holy Ghost dictating, have come down to us, transmitted as it were from hand to hand.”
(5) Cf. Second Vatican Council, Dogmatic Constitution Dei Verbum, 8 & 9, Denz. 4209-4210.
(6) Vatican I, Dogmatic Constitution Dei Filius, Dz. 3020: “Hence, also, that understanding of its sacred dogmas must be perpetually retained, which Holy Mother Church has once declared; and there must never be recession from that meaning under the specious name of a deeper understanding “Therefore […] let the understanding, the knowledge, and wisdom of individuals as of all, of one man as of the whole Church, grow and progress strongly with the passage of the ages and the centuries; but let it be solely in its own genus, namely in the same dogma, with the same sense and the same understanding.” [Vincent of Lerins, Commonitorium, 23, 3].”
(7) Vatican I, Dogmatic Constitution Dei Filius, Dz. 3011; Anti-modernist Oath, no. 4; Pius XII, Encyclical Letter Humani Generis, Dz 3886; Vatican Council II, Dogmatic Constitution Dei Verbum, 10, Dz. 4213.
(8) For example, like the teaching on the sacraments and the episcopacy in Lumen Gentium, no. 21.
(9) There is a parallel in history in the Decree for the Armenians of the Council of Florence, where the porrection of the instruments was indicated as the matter of the sacrament of Order. Nevertheless theologians legitimately discussed, even after this decree, the accuracy of such an assertion. Pope Pius XII finally resolved the issue in another way.” (See: https://www.therecusant.com/doctrinalpreamble-15apr2012)
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