07-24-2025, 09:32 PM
We were told by the SSPX we needed to be conditionally confirmed in 1996 because the Conciliar Church changed the form and matter of the sacraments making them invalid according to the council of Trent.
the form = are the words
the matter = the oil.
Both matter and form in the sacrament of Confirmation were changed by the Conciliar Church.
So how is it the SSPX accepts the Conciliar Church changes of the matter and form now in the sacraments and
since when? Fr. Robinson said in the beginning of the video they accept the new rites. He was at that point in the video speaking of the rites of Baptism, Confirmation and ordinations.
The SSPX has changed.
BTW, has the SSPX ever officially told the people in the pews of the changes in the SSPX positions? That since 2012 the SSPX officially accepts the new Mass and new sacraments of the Conciliar Church, and the new 1983 Code of Canon Law with a signed Doctrinal Declaration sent to Rome by Bishop Fellay?
Doctrinal Declaration #7 says: We (SSPX) declare that we recognize the validity of the Sacrifice of the Mass and the sacraments legitimately promulgated by Popes Paul VI and John Paul II.
Not all who attend the SSPX are aware of the 2012 Doctrinal Declaration and the changes of the SSPX.
Maybe that's why so many SSPXers are wondering what the big deal is about here. Well, it's about the SSPX making deals without telling you the people, the people who pay the bills for the SSPX! It's about gradually walking traditional Catholics into accepting the Conciliar Church without informing them of the plan. It's about doing the opposite of what Archbishop Lefebvre said.
Do you wonder why the SSPX hasn't consecrated bishops yet despite the fact there are only 2 remaining and those two ain't getting any younger? Do you wonder who's going to choose any future bishop(s)? Will it be Rome? Or will the sspx'ers be resorted to look to the local bishops for future confirmations and ordinations?
Blind obedience on the part of the clergy and faithful both, 67 years ago is how this crisis we are in now happened.
the form = are the words
the matter = the oil.
Both matter and form in the sacrament of Confirmation were changed by the Conciliar Church.
So how is it the SSPX accepts the Conciliar Church changes of the matter and form now in the sacraments and
since when? Fr. Robinson said in the beginning of the video they accept the new rites. He was at that point in the video speaking of the rites of Baptism, Confirmation and ordinations.
The SSPX has changed.
BTW, has the SSPX ever officially told the people in the pews of the changes in the SSPX positions? That since 2012 the SSPX officially accepts the new Mass and new sacraments of the Conciliar Church, and the new 1983 Code of Canon Law with a signed Doctrinal Declaration sent to Rome by Bishop Fellay?
Doctrinal Declaration #7 says: We (SSPX) declare that we recognize the validity of the Sacrifice of the Mass and the sacraments legitimately promulgated by Popes Paul VI and John Paul II.
Not all who attend the SSPX are aware of the 2012 Doctrinal Declaration and the changes of the SSPX.
Maybe that's why so many SSPXers are wondering what the big deal is about here. Well, it's about the SSPX making deals without telling you the people, the people who pay the bills for the SSPX! It's about gradually walking traditional Catholics into accepting the Conciliar Church without informing them of the plan. It's about doing the opposite of what Archbishop Lefebvre said.
Do you wonder why the SSPX hasn't consecrated bishops yet despite the fact there are only 2 remaining and those two ain't getting any younger? Do you wonder who's going to choose any future bishop(s)? Will it be Rome? Or will the sspx'ers be resorted to look to the local bishops for future confirmations and ordinations?
Blind obedience on the part of the clergy and faithful both, 67 years ago is how this crisis we are in now happened.