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The Recusant: Authority, Religious Liberty, and the New Mass (Analysis) - Stone - 03-08-2021 Taken from The Recusant Issue 29 – September 2015 Concerning ‘Liberty in Matters of Religion’ OR ‘Religious Liberty’,
Authority AND Whether we can attend the New Mass
1.Authority vs. ‘Liberty’ Religious Authority vs. ‘Religious Liberty’
![]() Summary: ‘Authority’ has different forms: it does not have to mean official jurisdiction but can also include moral authority. If authority exists, we may not do whatever we choose. All authority comes from God who is the author of all things. Authority exists for good. God is good. Therefore authority exists for God and exists to bring us to Him. As a result, therefore: 1) Even the greatest authority on earth cannot be used to lead us away from God, since He is the source of all authority and He cannot be made to contradict Himself. 2) Like a refusal to obey authority on the part of subjects (e.g. the French Revolution), a refusal to exercise authority on the part of one who has been given it means a denial to serve the interests of good and is thus, in effect, a denial of God who is the source. 3) Religious Liberty represents, in effect, a denial of God’s authority and thus, in the end, a denial of God Himself. The authority of the Church, and all of Tradition and Scripture, is thus by its very existence an implicit denial of Religious Liberty. 2. The New Mass and Whether We Ought to Attend it
![]() 3. Bishop Williamson and Authority “I think – I may be wrong – that [God] wants a loose network of independent pockets of Resistance, gathered around the Mass, freely contacting one another, but with no structure of false obedience [i.e. no structure] such as served to sink the mainstream Church in the 1960’s, and is now sinking the Society of St Pius X.” (Eleison Comments 277) “A number of good souls wish that a Congregation were founded to replace the Society of St Pius X. But [Archbishop Lefebvre] ... had the Church’s authority to build a Congregation of the Church. … How many sane bishops are there left in the mainstream Church [today]? And how could any of them today approve of Traditional and anti-Conciliar Statutes? … And that is why, right now, I envisage being little more than father, adviser and friend for any souls calling for a bishop’s leadership and support.” (Eleison Comments #307) “As for an alternative to the SSPX, we must learn the lessons to be drawn from its present severe crisis. The Catholic Church runs on authority, from the Pope downwards… We have, so to speak, run out of that peasant common sense that enabled Catholic authority to function.” (Eleison Comments #278) “Again I am being urged by a valiant participant in today’s Catholic “Resistance” to put myself at the head of it. … But God gave the dying breath of true Church authority to Archbishop Lefebvre… ‘The wide diversity of opinion amongst Resistance priests confuses the laity.’ But to control opinions requires authority (see above). ... ‘There is no Church without a head or hierarchy. God wants us organized.’ Normally indeed there is no Church without head or hierarchy, but modern man has created an abnormal situation.” (Eleison Comments #311) “But authority comes from the Pope. Which is why if the Pope is not in his right mind, you can’t get Catholic authority from above. You just can’t get it. … In which case the Church is crippled, the Church is paralysed. . . . I don’t have authority. I cannot have authority. Friendship, advice, contact, support: no problem. Authority: problem. Can you imagine that commanding resistant priests is like herding cats, can you imagine? In which case, is it worth trying if it is bound to fail?” ![]() 4. Bishop Williamson and ‘Liberty’
1. There is absolutely no need for the excessively emotional language. Why say “hammer him” and “ram down her throat” when “tell him” and “seek to persuade her” would do just as well? This tends to serve as a distraction from the meaning of what is being said. 2. Is this not the essence of indifferentism? If God has given me the grace to find Catholic Tradition and to see the conciliar church for what it really is, am I not obliged by the law of Charity to help my neighbor to see too, to bring them to Tradition and ultimately to safety? Do we not risk being condemned for the good we did not do, for the souls we did not bring to the truth?
1. How can a bishop counsel somebody to hold an opinion if a) that opinion is dangerous and b) it leads to a risk of losing the Faith altogether? 2. God never requires us to endanger our Faith. Therefore no Catholic ever really “needs to hold” a dangerous opinion. An individual Catholic may feel or think he needs to, but that is subjective, not objective. But if it is objectively dangerous, then objectively there is no need to embrace it, quite the contrary. 3. Does not the permission (“If you ‘need to’ do it, do it!”) have the effect of cancelling out the prior warning? If the conclusion is that you can hold an opinion if you feel you need to, then the final result is that you can do what you like, all warnings to the contrary notwithstanding.
1. Nobody disputes that we are all ultimately responsible for our own decisions, and will be answerable for whose advice we accepted and whose we rejected. But a layman cannot accept or reject advice, he cannot decide for or against a course of action, unless he is actually given advice to begin with! What is the point in even asking a priest (or bishop!) for advice on such a question if this is what his answer amounts to? 2. Once again, if I know that the New Mass poses a danger, and another soul asks me for advice, does not the law of Charity demand that I tell the truth and leave up to them the question of whether they follow my advice or not? Does this not apply even more for a priest and a hundredfold the more so for a bishop? ![]() Summary: Bishop Williamson says consistently that he will not tell people, laity or priests, what they should do. Even with something as basic and important as the question of attending the New Mass, he insists on leaving people to make up their on minds. In practice, this means leaving their consciences completely uninformed and untroubled and leaving them with a readymade excuse to not do the right thing. Bishop Williamson’s refusal to exercise even moral authority, to help compel souls towards the good even in the slightest way and his washing his hands of any responsibility for where they end up, leads in practice to a ‘soft’ version of Religious Liberty. 5. Objections: A) But you’re exposing a split in the Resistance!
How can anyone cause a split in the Resistance by disagreeing with someone who does not even believe in the Resistance?
Notice that the word “Resistance” always has quotation marks placed around it, whereas even the term “XSPX” does not! The effect of the quotation marks around “Resistance” is to suggest what he himself says elsewhere, that he does not really believe that there is such a thing as the “Resistance.” Nevertheless, whether or not one believes in it, the Resistance does exist. It is and strives to be the continuation of the work of Archbishop Lefebvre: to save and to spread Catholic Tradition and to oppose Vatican II and conciliarism. It is the coalescing of laity and clergy to that end, the organizing of the apostolate to that end, the training of a new generation of priests to that end, and all the rest. That is the reality behind the term. It exists whether one wants it to or not, whether one believe in it or not, but it is up to us whether we wish to see it and support it. It seems that Bishop Williamson does not.
Whether mistakenly or out of convenience, the outside world and in particular the enemies of the Resistance (neo-SSPX, sedevacantists, etc.) see the Resistance and Bishop Williamson as being one and the same thing. The reality is otherwise. Bishop Williamson himself appears to be undecided as to whether or not he supports the Resistance, or whether there even is such a thing at all! He does not use the term except in quotation marks, and he does not believe in what it stands for. B) But you can’t disagree with him! He’s a bishop!
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